Let me hold your heads under the waters of knowledge until some sense flows forcefully into your nose and mouth.

Sleepy: Yeah, and now ThunderClan is screwed if there's a battle, because we only have our leader and deputy, ONE warrior, three apprentices, and a medicine cat. :flipplz:

Even though I too don't RP as a warrior cat right I agree with every single post, sometime when I read some topics (I picture things in my mind as I read) and it sounded as if people were RPing humans not Warrior CATS...

And like I said, I mess up too but Im just saying...I'm planning on reading the first series again to get back into the feel of warriors...

I think we're all in agreement that we need to get our shet together and then toss it into the trash to let the garbage man take care of it.

But. . .

what . .

if . .

youjustdon'tfindmagicalEnglishforestcatsinterestinganymore?

;_;

Do we not belong too?! We former-fans-like-four-years-ago-or-something?! If you prick us, do we not bleed?!?!!?1wlfvgndbk vbn gnhh

i don't even know what i'm saying.

I don't want to leave thoooughhh. . . . I've left sites before but you guys are just too special. I don't even roleplay anymore. (except small one-threaders on the other forum I'm on. I know. I'm only on three sites. Beata, a Skyrim one, and here. wow. Back in the golden days of WCC I roleplayed like an internet dweller. Slackin'.)


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O_O What have I missed?!

1) I think every single person on this site knows I haven't tried to take Sunningrocks because I know we don't have a chance and I don't want to lose. It's really been like this for a long time, too. It'd be nice if we went entirely through with our site-fixing resolution .3.; You know, equal Clans and all. I know I keep complaining about that, even though the Admins have done a wonderful job with making the site more traditional. Really, it's great. But before long, one Clan or another will be almost extinct(much like WindClan used to be), and that could cause the few remaining people to say, "I'm bored, I quit." And kill their cats or just become entirely inactive :/ Thus, while one Clan is practically dead, the others will just ignore it. Untill people forget about another Clan, and eventually, that Clan goes inactive. Now almost half the Clans are gone. What do we do? Ignore that one, too. Unless we try to help it, which would not work because I don't think many people would be willing to kill the cats they RP at the moment or have them simply move to another Clan.


If none of that makes any sense, then at least think about this:

2) SkyClan.
Yeah, sure, they're full of Mary/Gary Sues, but who cares at this moment in time? They're so insanely active, they faced RiverClan and some ShadowClan practically alone. And won. :wthplz:
Sometimes I wonder why we even NEED this Clan. It just takes away from the others. I know TC and SKC are allies, but if they hadn't gone into this Clan in the first place, we may have been more evenly matched against the attacking Clans. Or, they could've been on the other side and destroyed the world. But that's ok, because that's the way the cookie crumbles. OR, better yet, the entire plot could have been different. Becuase of different circumstances, different cats, different reactions. You know, different. Different. Interesting.


Now that those two points are out, I have a proposal.
If, for any reason at all, people agree with my first point, everyone who cares does as suggested and rereads at least Into the Wild. Then, we have our next lives sorted into Clans. If anyone has a problem(Which they shouldn't. It's a Clan, for Pete's sake. It isn't the end of your life.), they can talk to Admins or Mods and switch with a person who doesn't mind if they are allowed. We all continue to live our current lives as we are, and then as our next lives have real things like patrols, border skirmishes, two-Clan wars, stealing of prey, twolegs, dogs, ELDERS, starvation, droughts, floods, fires, sickneses, deseases, DEVELOPED CHARACTERS, Hawks and other birds of prey, kit deaths, apprentice deaths, elders dying of old age, etc., etc., e Flipping tc.

/End long rant that I have no idea where it came from... X3

I totally agree >.>

I'm willing to some how get Berrykit to Thunderclan or some inactive clan, though I'm not going to because I'm not allowed. (Though I could probably like, kill her off and have her reborn into there...if that's okay o_o)

I disagree. No one should be able to tell us which clan we wants our lives to go in. That'd be hell for both new and older members. :T We just need more people. And instead of complaining about the shortage, ya'll should be out there simply being active and advertising. THAT would solve our problems.

And :bchplz:. SkyClan is staying here. And sadly, may I point out, it's not as active as it used to be and my amazing brother isn't leading it anymore. And, it's no longer the site's hotspot, if you've noticed. It's WindClan, now. WCC has always had this problem, though. =w= Of who has the totally outnumbering clans. It was ThunderClan at one point. Then ShadowClan. For a long while RiverClan. SkyClan and WindClan always had the misfortune of being the smallest, but it's their turn now.

Like I said, the only full-proof way to solve this problem is to go out and now be lazy. Recruit, hoes.

*presses enter key* :gustamuchoplz:

Lol wut? Wut's your enter key got to do witht his? o3o

OOC- @ Silver gnvnfjbg Will someone explain to me what a Mary/Gary sue is? Thank you.

Enter key meaning, I just posted this site for advertising on the tons of accounts of stuff I have XD

Like Twitter, Facebook, Roblox, Youtube....Want me to go on?

Ebony wrote:

I disagree. No one should be able to tell us which clan we wants our lives to go in. That'd be hell for both new and older members. :T We just need more people. And instead of complaining about the shortage, ya'll should be out there simply being active and advertising. THAT would solve our problems.

I don't think what are you no this is stupid sorry.

If you want this to be like Warriors, you don't get to choose what Clan you're born into. You can be a good cat in ShadowClan, or an ebulz one born into ThunderClan. You learn their ways and traditions and values. You don't pick where you're from or who you're born to. Just sayin'.

Advertising might work, but probably not. If they come across WCC, great . . . but do you know how many Warriors RPs are on the interwebs? Too many, my friend. You don't want us to be just another Warriors site, right?

I'm sure the only reason I hate the idea of being sorted into Clans against is because there's only one Clan besides RC that I could tolerate being shuffled into.

I'm just going to hide from this argument and think about it ;u;

Moonsage wrote:

Ebony wrote:

I disagree. No one should be able to tell us which clan we wants our lives to go in. That'd be hell for both new and older members. :T We just need more people. And instead of complaining about the shortage, ya'll should be out there simply being active and advertising. THAT would solve our problems.

I don't think what are you no this is stupid sorry.

If you want this to be like Warriors, you don't get to choose what Clan you're born into. You can be a good cat in ShadowClan, or an ebulz one born into ThunderClan. You learn their ways and traditions and values. You don't pick where you're from or who you're born to. Just sayin'.

Advertising might work, but probably not. If they come across WCC, great . . . but do you know how many Warriors RPs are on the interwebs? Too many, my friend. You don't want us to be just another Warriors site, right?

'dat dere problem you have is traditionalism, sir, and I do believe we are currently working on that. =w= In fact, I sadly think ShadowClan is one of the nicest peeps around right now. :I I think I understand what you're saying. Let's not all throw the ebil guys at SC and all the kawaii-desu heroes at TC, but if you've floated around and noticed, it's really just isn't a problem the site has been facing. WCC has been really ground-leveled recently.

I do agree, though, we need to put more emphasis on each of the clan values. Like in reality, hunting and daytime wouldn't be all that big of a deal in SC. All of SC focuses on fighting anyways and just nom off of carrionplace. Or, like it's been mentioned a shiz times over, how TC and RC should be choking themselves over Sunningrocks. I do believe there's an area that TC and SkC constantly fight over too. WC is the most dedicated to StarClan 'cause they think they're fawking special. etc.

But I'm getting carried away from my point.

We've actually talked about this before, but in a different situation. About keeping any of the clans closed for too long. Lots of people have said if they first joined and couldn't be put into the clan that they wanted to be in, they simply wouldn't have stayed on the site. Because it would suck. Badly. That's not what we need.
And then there's the issues others face. I, for one, will never... ever be sorted into TC. You couldn't drag me kicking and screaming. I'm sure other feel the same way about other clans.
Plus, what if someone would want to keep on roleplaying the family tree? AKA, their current life's son or daughter. This is something A LOT of people do. I'm sure chucking random kits at other clan's for the sake of equalness is not a good idea.

It'd be a hassle for the admins and much butthurt and complaining there would be. It's more trouble than it's worth.

Are we just going to sit here and do nothing and claim the place is uber special? It is. Because we're awesome. But really, this is just a warriors site. The only difference being that it's been built up on by generations of members. It didn't die out in the span of a few months and isn't out of control like WarriorCats RPG. But, like you've said yourself, the people already here have pretty much lost interest. It's just us sitting around. We can't rely on that. So, what choice do we have? Not just advertising (though, I'm sure that'd help). I know people in other roleplays who would probably give this place a shot. I'm sure tons of people on here are in the same situation. Just get the word out people...
If it's only one person per life, and there's a shortage of cats in all the clans, the obvious solution is to get more people to join. Rite? .3.

Ebony wrote:

Moonsage wrote:

Ebony wrote:

I disagree. No one should be able to tell us which clan we wants our lives to go in. That'd be hell for both new and older members. :T We just need more people. And instead of complaining about the shortage, ya'll should be out there simply being active and advertising. THAT would solve our problems.

I don't think what are you no this is stupid sorry.

If you want this to be like Warriors, you don't get to choose what Clan you're born into. You can be a good cat in ShadowClan, or an ebulz one born into ThunderClan. You learn their ways and traditions and values. You don't pick where you're from or who you're born to. Just sayin'.

Advertising might work, but probably not. If they come across WCC, great . . . but do you know how many Warriors RPs are on the interwebs? Too many, my friend. You don't want us to be just another Warriors site, right?

'dat dere problem you have is traditionalism, sir, and I do believe we are currently working on that. =w= In fact, I sadly think ShadowClan is one of the nicest peeps around right now. :I I think I understand what you're saying. Let's not all throw the ebil guys at SC and all the kawaii-desu heroes at TC, but if you've floated around and noticed, it's really just isn't a problem the site has been facing. WCC has been really ground-leveled recently.

I do agree, though, we need to put more emphasis on each of the clan values. Like in reality, hunting and daytime wouldn't be all that big of a deal in SC. All of SC focuses on fighting anyways and just nom off of carrionplace. Or, like it's been mentioned a shiz times over, how TC and RC should be choking themselves over Sunningrocks. I do believe there's an area that TC and SkC constantly fight over too. WC is the most dedicated to StarClan 'cause they think they're fawking special. etc.

Traditionalism isn't a bad thing, and I'm not exactly a fierce traditionalist. I'm a guy who thinks football is stupid and cleaning and being anal retentive is more important than manly-mc-mannington stuff. Social conservatives support values and morals, not sexism.

What I'm saying is there are serious roleplaying advantages to having your Clan picked for you. It isn't like Harry Potter where your traits determine where you go -- a nice, pure white she-cat that only wants to be a Queen when she grows up can be born into ShadowClan. But guess what? She'll still be molded by her environment. She may be nice, but she will still support ShadowClan's ways. (Because they don't go "I wish I could join ThunderClan cuzz mah Clan is ebulz!") I'm not saying WCC's having the problem. I'm saying people often pick the Clan they like and put a cat in there that would be . . stereotypical.

Clan values but not traditions? I don't get it. I agree there. . . but I also think SkyClan should be non-existent on the site . . .

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But I'm getting carried away from my point.

We've actually talked about this before, but in a different situation. About keeping any of the clans closed for too long. Lots of people have said if they first joined and couldn't be put into the clan that they wanted to be in, they simply wouldn't have stayed on the site. Because it would suck. Badly. That's not what we need.
And then there's the issues others face. I, for one, will never... ever be sorted into TC. You couldn't drag me kicking and screaming. I'm sure other feel the same way about other clans.
Plus, what if someone would want to keep on roleplaying the family tree? AKA, their current life's son or daughter. This is something A LOT of people do. I'm sure chucking random kits at other clan's for the sake of equalness is not a good idea.

Clans shouldn't really be closed . . . but I do support the idea of a kit going wherever is decided (based on if they want rped parents, size of the Clans, who needs kits, etc.) It isn't going to ruin roleplay for you if you're put there for the sake of roleplay, right?

Why? What's so bad about TC? And just saying, the point of roleplay is to . . well, roleplay. If you were a kit, you can't choose who your parents are or where you're born. You wouldn't hate TC. You might, but why should your characters? (unless they're in SC, of course.) I can see why you'd think it is restrictive, but I'm just pointing out a . . point.

I think the idea of lives is stupid . . pick the character, play it out until it dies via roleplay, and then start anew. If people did this in an organized fashion, there would be a LOT less lives. Unless your kitty dies during childbirth, you shouldn't be playing their baby.

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It'd be a hassle for the admins and much butthurt and complaining there would be. It's more trouble than it's worth.

Are we just going to sit here and do nothing and claim the place is uber special? It is. Because we're awesome. But really, this is just a warriors site. The only difference being that it's been built up on by generations of members. It didn't die out in the span of a few months and isn't out of control like WarriorCats RPG. But, like you've said yourself, the people already here have pretty much lost interest. It's just us sitting around. We can't rely on that. So, what choice do we have? Not just advertising (though, I'm sure that'd help). I know people in other roleplays who would probably give this place a shot. I'm sure tons of people on here are in the same situation. Just get the word out people...
If it's only one person per life, and there's a shortage of cats in all the clans, the obvious solution is to get more people to join. Rite? .3.

In your opinion. But for the sake of organization and a renewed interest in roleplay (I personally think all completed threads should be archived to a graveyard subforum. Keep things clean?) If WCC started a clean slate in terms of canon, I would actually force myself into Warriors again to be a part of it.

. . . continuing that thought, all the mistakes I've made with my characters . . Cowbelle, a southern American cow in England? wut? Moonsage, the sagely wise cat with a moon on his face? wtf? Starting fresh would be . . refreshing. :D

I think starting over would renew interests. (the roleplay, I mean. Clean out the roleplaying forum and start the canon over. New cats, funfunfunfun, lookin' forward to the weekenddd. . . )

I dunno. ;-;

Getting more people to join? What about the multitudes that we have already? I think there should be a sweep of inactive accounts (like, a year of activity) . . . I'm rambling now. sorry.

Lolwat, Moon? Bishplz. I'm the girl who started the traditional movement. xD I'm sure that seems strange, but the warriors universe IS very conservative. |3 And it strays from that down the series and it gets annoying as hell. e_e All dem values wash away. Not here, though. >:C
Hell yes, we need it.
And yeah, but we don't have that problem. And if it occurs we could talk it out with the person when they make their creation, if it's that big of a deal.

SkyClan is my baby. I'm never lettin' it go without a fight. xDD It's staying, since it was here before it left the books. ;3; /shot.

And well, obviously, if my life were in ThunderClan, my life would be loyal ThunderClan. I, however, feel it is the least favorite of my clans and if I were put into it, I'd be far less inclined to be active and roleplay.

That is a good point, but I would want to go on an continue my first character's family tree/legacy. (Although, if we did start a reboot, Eb wouldn't get knocked up this time around. .3. lolderp. I'd make it work. She'd have a sister or something.)
Anyways, there are still people I'm sure who wouldn't want to start out completely new every time. We shouldn't force that on people, but more leave up as an open-option.


As for the complete reboot, I really don't have an opinion. This place has three years of rp history. That'd be rather hard to throw away, I think, but then again I don't look at Ebony and Sparrow and cringe; so I'm sure it's a rather tempting for ya'll. =w=
Whutever. If it happens, I'm cool with it. It it doesn't, that's fine too.

There probably should be a member sweep, yes, but if there are clans with only four people in them... I'm pretty sure that's a sign there AREN'T multitudes of people running around the site. cx