Nuke SkyClan Plot |D

*about to go on a rage* Darn you, Sleepy! D:>

One, the clans shouldn't even know about the Dark Forest. It's supposed to be where cats go to walk alone becuase they did horrible stuff. And, in the books where they got trained, the books had already been bad after series number one. And Cold shouldn't remember from when he was a kit. And finally, how did he not tell in the first place the Dark Forest was evil? Old, rotting trees, murky, slimy, mud-filled water, and no prey? :/

1 One of your past lives were one of the ones hating on him.
2 Apparently they saw the bad in him right after Storm died. Storm didn't like they way he acted and of course being little then he was fairly annoying. Storm is strict and sort of over did it, holding him down so he wouldn't be disrespectful to one of her friends there who snapped at him for being disrespectful. He thought the regular human "four-year-old" thoughts like "they hate me and are punishing me for no reason" type thing. Basically his first encounter with starclan didn't go so well and he got these stereotypes in his head about hole mean they were. Add on the other stereotypes he got in his head from his time in the dark forest.

3 I'm ignoring you now moss because you aren't exactly making sense.

Oh, balls.

I was actually going to congratulate you until you told everyone to shut up, called them immature, and then asserted that you were right and everyone else is wrong without giving even the slightest thought to their arguments.

This topic clearly IS about Cold, Storm. That's the thing. I believe that Ebs made this to address the issue of Sues in SkyClan. Whether Cold is a Sue or not, you can't just ignore everybody like that.

You know what? It was approved. That doesn't necessarily mean that it's in the clear, especially since so many people are dissatisfied with it. Rain or Jay can always take that back and unapprove it.

Because even after reading all of that, I still don't understand why StarClan and his mother randomly hated Cold. I also don't quite understand how Cold put Cream into the elder's den without getting caught. I was thinking perhaps someone else could try to clarify that and maybe this WHOLE thing could go away.

And you know, this is kind of my responsibility now Dx In case you haven't noticed.

So if you're going to act like that, please don't post in this topic anymore Storm :I In fact, don't post in any topics that have to do with things like this anymore D;

*Three new posts while I've been writing this*

DAMN IT

Well, you've clarified this now. Just... ;LAJG;IEWUJ;SD

Thank you and normally I try to be calm about these kind of things but when random members that don't have anything to do with it start ticking me off....then I kind of blow up if you know what I mean. It seriously bugs me when they try to make me change things, like how he's killed. If they haven't noticed, this is my character...not theirs'.

I never tried to make you change it. I'm confused on how he didn't realize the Dark Forest was evil, and how Starclan just randomly hates a kit.
I'm sorry, Storm.

Storm, you don't make sense by ignoring Moss because she didn't make sense. Gracestep hardly was there while Coldkit was growing up. No sense in ignoring her purely because she was trying to prove a point. They shouldn't know about the Dark Forest. I say we rid it with that and have ambitious freaks that don't RP their characters after they die.

If we get rid of the Dark Forest then how will WCC be fun. I mean yeah we have the clans who can fight for a reason or whatever. We really wouldn't have any rogues because those are usually evil characters. Loners don't do any harm.

May: And I say stop trying to make decisions that don't involve you o3o...

Moss: I don't suppose anyone ever notices it's evil, just the fact it's all gloomy and dark in there.

@Moss-Crookedstar trained in the Dark Forest and he thought it was StarClan

Bramble: thanks but remember cold thought the dark forest was the good side rather than the other way around because of everything I explained already :P

*Eye twitches* Ok, NO ONE LIKES THIS BLOODY TOPIC. No one likes arguing. Everyone is clogging this pointless topic with arguements and throwing them against people who don't even have time to respong properly before someone else starts ranting.

Rule number one: Give members a chance to post. If there are more than two members involved in a topic, give everyone a chance to say something, to get a word in edge-wise, ya' know? You never know when someone may have a really good reply.

1.Go with the flow of the topic.
The person who started this just wanted to do a stupid role-play type thing.. I don't know. But it's just turned into an argument. Can't we all just drop the topic already?? No one likes arguing!!

Hey, this is going well, Sunny D; Well... Not really. In fact this is going horribly. But don't give up hope, man T_T

Oh dear, God. I'm not even going to bother trying to read all of these posts.

Look, people. I made this topic because Shadow, Stone, and I are all really disappointed with how SkyClan is turning out. It's like... all of the evil cats packed up their bags from ShadowClan and moved to SkyClan. Not just Cold, though he is the ring leader, get over yourself, it's not all about him. Whether you guys like it or not, all of your little plots have cliche's and holes so bad it's almost physically painful to stand by and watch.

I don't know why it's so hard for people to understand that you can make a wonderful character, good or bad, without trying to to make them bland and predictable. Really. And it's not just the characters, it's the roleplayers.

The topic was made to point this out in a less direct manner, but I guess no matter what, if you try to point out something bad everyone is bound to get their undies in a bunch.

Get this straight and simple.
The Dark Forest doesn't come to you,
you go to the Dark Forest.
And really, you'd better have damn good reasons to go there, alive or dead.
That's all you need.
But if you don't and you have terrible/brought randomly out of your arse -- or no reasons at all, there's something wrong with your character and chances are it's a sue.

p.s. most mommies of the world tolerate kids and don't hate them for completely no reason what-so-ever. :/ *points at Arizona*
It's not just Cold. ktnxbai.

Arizona was a fart and hated how her humans treated her, making her give them kittens, she became agressive, thinking it was the kits fault she suffered and wanted to die.

This is my last post unless someone else dedcides to insult Hawky, me or Cold. And maybe Ember.

I agree, and are you talking about me, or Ebz, sunny?